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Post by KarmaChameleon Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:42 pm

guys i never did say "only do embryoic stem cell research." but, if the odds are pointing to embroyic research, then wouldn't you think we should try that a little more? like.. in a race, would you rather have a lamborghini, or a model T from early 1900's.

and brooke, i also have had awful luck with cancer, so please don't think i am being insencitive.
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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:44 pm

You just contradicted yourself eric.....just saying, because you gut offended by Sarah's comment which I don't understand why...
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Post by Princess Sarah Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:45 pm

we never said anything like that eric. you were just saying about how cancer should be cured with it, and i said that even more diseases besides cancer could be cured by it also.

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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:46 pm

exactly...there are a tons more
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Post by KarmaChameleon Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:46 pm

i was offended that she feels that we should wait and use a lesser chance to get the answer here.

when we get down to it, this is ethics. no right or wrong answer.

and yes, sarah. diabetes is also an issue. my family has bad luck with that one too. not so much spinal cord issues, but that still is a huge issue.
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Post by Princess Sarah Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:48 pm

i never said we should wait eric. i said that we have the technology NOW to cure these things so we should use it NOW. your putting words into my mouth that ive never said

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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:49 pm

We also need to use it for disabled people not just diseases
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Post by Princess Sarah Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:51 pm

exactly. stem cells can cure sooo many many things. we just need to take the oppurtunity and use it. so many people's lives could be changed by this.

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Post by KarmaChameleon Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:54 pm

SarahTanner wrote:. i said that we have the technology NOW to cure these things so we should use it NOW.

and here is my issue. they DON'T have the technology to cure it at the moment. my good friend just died from luekemia. she has had chemo 3 times. radiation once. this isn't fair, you see. cancer is an awful thing. and with this, i will back out of the debate, as i see my opinion is wrong.
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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:55 pm

We don't have technology because no one is willing to fund it, and this isnt about just cancer this is about everything it could cure
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Post by Princess Sarah Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:57 pm

ERIC, chemo, is NOT from the stem cell research. and we DO have the technology because people HAVE been cured. it just costs a lot of money. and there are many other diseases besides for cancer that kill people, eric. there are many other awful diseases, not just cancer. quit limiting this research to only cancer.

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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:59 pm

exactly there are more diseases that kill people
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Post by Short Circuit Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:03 am

From what limited knowledge I have of this, stem cells can only cure ORGANS, not diseases. They can be used to repair damaged muscles, as in people with Multiple Sclerosis, or Muscular Dystrophy, it can help the brain re map itself, as in people with Alzheimer Disease, it can rebuild organs that are failing, like the liver, kidneys, pancreas. It can repair the nervous system, so that people MIGHT be able to walk again, but it cannot cure abnormal cells, that cancers comes from.

It took me nearly an hour to read up on all this stuff, and now my head hurts, so please make the next topic a lighter one!
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:42 am

Actually cancer can be cured by stem cell research it just costs shit loads and is some what rather risky.

In the medical world today its mostly used for operations to repair the nervous system and other organs, things like that

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Post by Princess Sarah Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:46 am

Stem cells can cure disabilities and diseases. I learned in biology that the stem cells could be sort of "tricked" like it was a different cell, so it takes on that role of whatever cell it was tricked into being, which therefore, can cure diseases too.

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:48 am

It is also in the experimental stage of being able to cure some types of cancers and it has cured some sort of cancers and other diseases and what not. It costs a horrible ammount of money and therefore cannot be used often, although it is used for some stuff like repairing the nervous system but to cure cancer it does cost a lot

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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:40 pm

It cost a lot or any type of cure, and doesn't cure cancer yet. I we want to be able to cure any type o disease we should be prepared to pay or it. We should be able yo sacrifice some of our money to save lives, because that's the only way this is going to get done
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Post by Darth Pyrinikon Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:02 pm

I heard on the radio that most, if not all, stem cell implants that WORKED were done so with adult stem cells, not embryonic.
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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:09 pm

Exactly, because people don't want to use embryonic
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Post by Darth Pyrinikon Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:23 pm

No, because the embryonic ones are yes, more prone to differentiation, but they are also more prone to dying before they can do any good
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Post by Ninja Yellow Monkey Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:26 pm

Half of the people who are against using stem cells say they are against using embryonic stem cells and want to only use Adult stem cells
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Post by LigerMan007 Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:03 pm

for one thing embryonic stem cells haven't done anything for society yet and based on the way the work they cant function after the child is mangled and ripped apart only ADULT stem cells have been PROVEN to work lol my bits but if it comes from a adult im fine with it , it can really benefit society
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